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I don't make too many of these, so I don't have any pictures on hand (other than this illustration).
We can do them with our without knobs. I can do them for around $42.88 each plus shipping.
This would be with handmade xuan paper suitable for calligraphy. If you need "cooked" or "sized" xuan paper, be sure to specify that.
You'll also need to specify the length of the paper panel. Standard paper length is 135cm. Many people will go with 270cm (About 9 feet) as there will be just one paper splice.
You can customize what you want here:
http://www.orientaloutpost.com/options. ... all+Scroll
Start by selecting a "Horizontal Wall Scroll" mounting. I don't have a mock up for hand scrolls, but this will allow you to look at silk colors and get an idea of what you are ordering.
For several reasons, hand scrolls are $10 more than regular wall scrolls. For each hand scroll you order, please match the number of this surcharge item in your cart:
http://www.orientaloutpost.com/proddeta ... d=blank-hs
The shipping fee charges is just $9.80 per order. So if you buy 1 or 100 of these, you pay just $9.80 once. This is how you save money by ordering more (we absorb the actual cost of shipping from Beijing into the price paid for each scroll).
The scrolls we make in our shop are just below museum quality, so they are a lot better than 90% of the scrolls on the market (most scrolls are made for tourists these days).
We don't have any knobs like the knob shown in your image. Your choice is a blind end capped with silk brocade, or a larger wooden knob. I suggest going with the wooden knobs, as they make it much easier to roll up. Also, I designed our knobs myself on my own lathe. They're really nice for production knobs. If you want to spend more, I can also get some polished hardwood knobs, but that's nearly $20 more.
As you can see here the silk is on the outside framing the paper. While This is rather nice to look at and is probably better in a lot of ways it is not really what I want. Is it possible to not have any silk down the length of the paper?
The silk is facing the inside which makes since but for the needs stated above. As in the first picture in my post shows the silk is facing outside.
Again I do want to say the quality if the product is great that why I really would like to be able to do this.
This is a cheap little makimono I picked up in Japan its not very good quality but it shows what I am looking for.
So you want the silk brocade to go down the back of the whole length of the scrolls (not just at the head for about 30cm)?
On the sides you want no silk brocade (your sample image appears to have a very small keyline of silk - I don't think I have an appropriate silk for this). We probably need to put a brown paper keyline (the same kind as on the edge of the scroll we made for you) just to make the edge look finished.
Our knobs where OK for you?
I need to talk to my master mounter and see if we can do this. The techniques are basically the same, but I need to discuss with him if the labor is the same etc.
If you can answer or confirm my understandings above, that would be a great help.
My master mounter says he can do that style of hand scroll.
The only caveat is that we'd much rather do 10 or more of them in a batch (this will keep us from charging the full surcharge, so you can pay just $23.88 each for the size you want at 10+ pieces). There's just a lot of set up to do, so if you're buying less than 10 of them at a time, that $10-per-scroll surcharge will apply like before making it 29.88 per scroll for the size you want at less than 10 pieces.
If you want to get a batch of 10 or more later, I just need you to select the size "small" (even though yours are basically "extra small"). I guess you could say this makes the surcharge $4 instead of $10.
A lot of math and discussion went into this.
I understand if you want to get a single sample order in first (I'd want to do that myself before ordering a batch of 10).
On a side note I never received my silk samples that I ordered with my first order.
If you want, I can send you what I have now. I think I am just missing orange-chocolate (and you should know what that looks like, as I think that's what you ordered on your scroll), the frost blue, and frost green.
You can use the same link as last time (see previous post in this topic/thread) to order a sample wall scroll.
Last time, we did it the typical (I guess you could call it "Chinese") way. This time we are going to do it without silk borders (just a brown keyline) on the sides. This way is sometimes done in ancient and modern China, and seems to have become the standard in Japan.
To be clear: If we were to screw this up and accidentally put silk borders on the sides, you won't have to pay for it.
I probably only get two orders for hand scrolls per year, so I will be sure to notice yours, and make the special arrangements.
I can do the two-toned without extra charge since we're not doing silk down the sides.
Let me know what color you'd want in addition to white (presuming that color would be the one you want on the back as the wrap-around color when the scroll is rolled up).
Also, something not clear in the images is how far the back side silk goes. Is is about 30cm (12") just like the front?
I'm worried that it might be the whole length. Also, part of me really wants to reinforce the connection of paper to the roller with a small panel of silk.
Let me know what you think.
The silk attaching to the paper is normally just what it takes to cover the roll fully with some left over. I think it would really depend on the paper and the dowel that it is attached to. Hope that makes since.
The length should be fine I know I will loose like 6 to 8 inchs for mounting but that should be fine as the one we have now is 240cm so have 30cm to work with. I think that small panel of silk would be nice but I not really sure it needs it but it would be interesting to see.
I haven't really gone into why I need these that might help a little. So basiclly I practice a martial that has koryu Japanese roots so when you become a certified instructor traditionally you are presented a mokuroku http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokuroku. As the link says its a hand written on a hand scroll. Well they are pretty hard to find in Japan almost impossible to find in the states. This is a pretty big deal for our system as a head instructor is out of the ones he was able to get in the 70's. So thanks for all the work on it.
Sorry for the delay, your special project needs special attention from the master mounter. He just could not squeeze it in before the holiday break.