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[hein]

I like very much the page with the converter of Hanyu-Pinyin with Numbers to Pinyin with Tones Diacritics. Unfortunately so far I could not find out how to handle the u with umlaut.
Please advise.

Regards,
Hein

[Gary]

Regarding: http://www.orientaloutpost.com/pinyin.php

The shorthand way to do that is with a "v".

For instance, if you enter nv3, you will get nǚ.

You can also use "u:", so nu:3 becomes nǚ as well.

The only thing my program lacks is a way to handle capitalized pinyin (right now it's only lowercase in, lowercase out). Maybe I will work on that today. It's been a year or more since I did anything to improve that page.

Cheers,
-Gary.

[hein]

[Gary]

It would be really complicated. You'd have to be running PHP on your local machine. I don't recommend that.

I did make some changes today to streamline the program (it now runs a few nanoseconds faster) and made it so that you can enter Pinyin that starts with capital letters such as Bei3jing1 or Bei3 Jing1.

But it will not handle BEI3 JING1 (all caps). But that is technically incorrect Pinyin format.

We also have a crazy Chinese, Japanese, and Buddhist dictionary that you might be interested in:
http://www.orientaloutpost.com/dictionary.php

Cheers,
-Gary.

[hein]

Thank you very much. Yes, the dictionary is a very pleasant surprise. A bit overwhelming though.
What does 'CL' and 'P' in the right column stand for?

Regarding the entry of characters. I have a text/poem in Chinese. Is it possible to enter this there? I can not copy it by writing. Moreover it is written in the more curved traditional style. Is using a picture a possibility?

[Gary]

About CL (from CC-CEDICT info):

Classifiers (also called “Measure words”) can be listed using the following syntax:
避風港 避风港 [bi4 feng1 gang3] /haven/refuge/harbor/CL:座[zuo4],個|个[ge4]/

Classifiers follow the 'reference' syntax, are prefixed by 'CL:' and separated by a comma (no additional spacing).

The classifier words itself can be described using:
/classifier for small round things (peas, bullets, peanuts, pills, grains etc)/

For Japanese (and some Chinese) definitions, the following applies (from http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/edict_doc.html)...

adj-i adjective (keiyoushi)
adj-na adjectival nouns or quasi-adjectives (keiyodoshi)
adj-no nouns which may take the genitive case particle `no'
adj-pn pre-noun adjectival (rentaishi)
adj-t `taru' adjective
adj-f noun or verb acting prenominally (other than the above)
adj former adjective classification (being removed)
adv adverb (fukushi)
adv-n adverbial noun
adv-to adverb taking the `to' particle
aux auxiliary
aux-v auxiliary verb
aux-adj auxiliary adjective
conj conjunction
ctr counter
exp Expressions (phrases, clauses, etc.)
id idiomatic expression
int interjection (kandoushi)
iv irregular verb
n noun (common) (futsuumeishi)
n-adv adverbial noun (fukushitekimeishi)
n-pref noun, used as a prefix
n-suf noun, used as a suffix
n-t noun (temporal) (jisoumeishi)
num numeric
pn pronoun
pref prefix
prt particle
suf suffix
v1 Ichidan verb
v5 Godan verb (not completely classified)
v5aru Godan verb - -aru special class
v5b Godan verb with `bu' ending
v5g Godan verb with `gu' ending
v5k Godan verb with `ku' ending
v5k-s Godan verb - iku/yuku special class
v5m Godan verb with `mu' ending
v5n Godan verb with `nu' ending
v5r Godan verb with `ru' ending
v5r-i Godan verb with `ru' ending (irregular verb)
v5s Godan verb with `su' ending
v5t Godan verb with `tsu' ending
v5u Godan verb with `u' ending
v5u-s Godan verb with `u' ending (special class)
v5uru Godan verb - uru old class verb (old form of Eru)
v5z Godan verb with `zu' ending
vz Ichidan verb - zuru verb - (alternative form of -jiru verbs)
vi intransitive verb
vk kuru verb - special class
vn irregular nu verb
vs noun or participle which takes the aux. verb suru
vs-i suru verb - irregular
vs-s suru verb - special class
vt transitive verb

# Field of Application

A number of entries are marked with a specific field of application. Current fields and tags are:

Buddh Buddhist term
MA martial arts term
comp computer terminology
food food term
geom geometry term
gram grammatical term
ling linguistics terminology
math mathematics
mil military
physics physics terminology

# Miscellaneous Markings

X rude or X-rated term
abbr abbreviation
arch archaism
ateji ateji (phonetic) reading
chn children's language
col colloquialism
derog derogatory term
eK exclusively kanji
ek exclusively kana
fam familiar language
fem female term or language
gikun gikun (meaning) reading
hon honorific or respectful (sonkeigo) language
hum humble (kenjougo) language
iK word containing irregular kanji usage
id idiomatic expression
io irregular okurigana usage
m-sl manga slang
male male term or language
male-sl male slang
ng neuter gender
oK word containing out-dated kanji
obs obsolete term
obsc obscure term
ok out-dated or obsolete kana usage
on-mim onomatopoeic or mimetic word
poet poetical term
pol polite (teineigo) language
rare rare (now replaced by "obsc")
sens sensitive word
sl slang
uK word usually written using kanji alone
uk word usually written using kana alone
vulg vulgar expression or word

This was obviously too much to stick on each dictionary page, and I am not sure how to handle it.

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The (P) refers to a word of "high priority". Basically a word you should have in your vocabulary (If I understand the description correctly).

By the way, if you get overwhelmed with the amount of results, use the + and - signs in front of the words you are entering.

For instance, at the moment, if you enter "Summer Season", you get all results with summer OR season. If you enter "+Summer +Season" you get only results with both words in them.

Use the - (minus sign) in front of words you don't want in the results. So "+fall -season -autumn" would get you just words about taking a fall. That might miss some of the tenses, so "+fall* -season -autumn" will get you everything about falling, fallen, and fall, but without the seasonal forms of fall.

I am thinking about changing the way this works, as I know this Boolean style is not user-friendly for multi-word searches. It's a work in progress.

Cheers,
-Gary.

[hein]

Speaking about words of 'high priority'.

Would you know by chance a list of words (in Pinyin), with, let's say, 100 basical words and 400 next priority words. This based on the frequency of use and/or occurence in a simple text.

This would tremendously help in getting some basic vocabularly.

I know of this type of wordlist in several western languages, but have not yet found one in Chinese.